robin_reala a day ago

In 1928 he conducted the funeral service of Sayaid Ali, an elephant keeper at London Zoo who had been murdered in his bed by a rival elephant keeper. The service was held at Waterloo station, after which the coffin was taken on the Necropolis Railway to the Muslim section of Brookwood Cemetery.

History is often stranger than fiction. The Necropolis Railway is definitely worth a read if you haven’t heard of it before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Necropolis_Railway

  • Loughla a day ago

    >to prevent both mourners and cadavers from different social backgrounds from mixing

    It's always fascinating reading about England's very complicated social class system. Other than the aristocracy being rich, does this still hold up today? Is there still inherent benefit from being a traditionally upper class family, even if they don't have generational wealth still?

    • tengwar2 3 hours ago

      The closer you get to London, the more it matters.

      Money is not central to the system: it is possible and even common to be in one of the middle classes with virtually no income. However this may not work for the upper class since lack of money would preclude taking part in many social occasions.

    • mellosouls 3 hours ago

      Yes. For example 2 prime ministers of the last ten years were educated at the same school (Eton).

      Whatever its actual merit and financial requirements for attendance, it is a symbol of aristocracy and class.

      That it is (and similar institutions are) still massively over-represented in the life paths of the Great and Good is telling.

    • throaway2501 a day ago

      you bet there is

      • Loughla 15 hours ago

        Can you provide some examples?

        • flir 2 hours ago

          I consider myself a pretty egalitarian dude. That accent still makes me stand to attention internally. I hate it. (And I haven't had much exposure to it in real life, so I suspect it's because its baked into our media landscape).

  • gpderetta a day ago

    ah, yes, good old Necropolitan Line. I first learned about it in "The Fuller Memorandum", a Laundry Files novel by cstross.

    • wrp a day ago

      The Necropolis Railway also features in the Basil Copper novel Necropolis (1980).

  • Maken a day ago

    At the time the largest cemetery in the world, Brookwood Cemetery was designed to be large enough to accommodate all the deaths in London for centuries to come, and the LNC hoped to gain a monopoly on London's burial industry.

    There is something amusing about how incredibly ambitious they were, yet they completely missed the mark on how many people would live (and die) in London in the following centuries.

rossng a day ago

> In 1928 he conducted the funeral service of Sayaid Ali, an elephant keeper at London Zoo who had been murdered in his bed by a rival elephant keeper.

This sentence begs for an entire blog post of its own.

  • kombookcha 5 hours ago

    Yeah, very curious about how there is this calibre of high stakes drama and intrigue among 1920s elephant keepers.

n4r9 6 hours ago

The name "Sheldrake" seems to coincide with colourful characters! The only other instances I know of are the Sheldrake family consisting of:

* Rupert, biologist turned crank scientist.

* Merlin, science populariser.

* Cosmo, musician.

FooBarBizBazz 19 hours ago

> Khalid performed the ceremony over the Channel with Gladys taking the name Khair ul Nissa.

"Khair ul* Nissa"?! This cannot be a coincidence? That was also the name of a young Hyderabadi noblewoman who married the earlier English convert to Islam, James Achilles Kirkpatrick** [1][2]. It caused controversy in Hyderabadi society at the time, but after Kirkpatrick's death, it became widely(?) seen in England as having been a devoted relationship and a very romantic story. IIRC it was Thomas Carlyle who said Kirkpatrick had "scaled walls for" Khair un Nissa. So I will guess that Gladys had heard that story.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Achilles_Kirkpatrick

[2] Dalyrumple. White Mughals.

* Shouldn't that be "un"?

** How good is that name?

palmfacehn a day ago

James Brooke becoming the monarch of Sarawak is another interesting case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brooke

  • teruakohatu a day ago

    Very interesting, I had not heard of the Brookes but the last crown price died here in New Zealand in 2011, being a an heir to a biscuit fortune. There was actually a connection between Sheldrake and the Brookes family.

tetris11 a day ago

oh wow, I live just round the corner from there. I guess I'll go check out if there's still a mosque there

  • zwischenzug a day ago

    So do I!

    • moomin a day ago

      There’s a mosque on North Cross Road but that’s only about 35 years old.

icodar a day ago

It takes a person with tremendous persuasive powers to convince a woman to convert religion in a short space of time, like a plane ride. https://www.everydaymuslim.org/blog/aeroplanes-and-heiresses... But maybe Gladys was already investigating religions

  • dzdt 2 hours ago

    I suspect you have a different notion of what conversion meant than Gladys did. For you it seems to be about internal beliefs; for her it was about external declaration, ceremony, and recognition. Likely beliefs had very little to do with the whole thing.

  • lucozade a day ago

    From the article

    Gladys, who had previously converted to Catholicism and Christian Science, had firm ideas about how her conversion to Islam should go. She wanted it performed ‘on no earthly territory’ so in 1932 she chartered a plane to fly from Croydon to Paris and Khalid performed the ceremony over the Channel

    So yes, she was already investigating religions and this appears to have been her idea.

    • InfiniteLoup a day ago

      The article goes even futher:

      “I particularly wanted to become a Moslem in an aeroplane” she is quoted as saying to a journalist who was on the flight with her, “so that I might be as far from earth and as near to heaven as possible.”

      Sounds rather like a case of main character syndrome of a bored socialite than that she needed much persuasion to convert.

MrMcCall a day ago

Nice. He appears to have been a true seeker of truth.

What someone should know is that if a Christian accepts Islam without the intention to strengthen their understanding of Christ's teachings, they are doing so in bad faith.

As well, a Muslim who does not accept Christ's teachings is also of bad faith and on the wrong path. (I'm not talking about what other people say about Christ's teachings, where all sorts of errors propagate.)

Love is the only purpose of religion; we are to love God in order to better love our fellow human beings. For all forms of religion, that is the only underlying goal, beyond all differences in customs.

We are one human race, created by One Creator, and instructed to love one another irrespective of our cultures' customs. Anything that opposes this perspective is distraction, selfishness, and leads only to strife and misery.

  Always love. Teach to always love.
  Never hate. Teach to never hate.
We must tune our hearts to this truly foundational precept. Only in compassion do our senses reveal the truth.

"Love is the astrolabe of God's mysteries." --Rumi